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    ThreeRashers

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    #96841   2008-03-22 22:59 GMT      
    I will warn everyone that this is a most disturbing video even though it was on the news sensitive viewers should not watch, but if you start watch the whole video. But this is typical cop behavior (but most victims are too scared to come forward). I would like to hear the cops here defend these guys. Personally I think the sheriff should recieve the death penalty for his comment. Not on the website the sheriff's email is made available so you can send him your thoughts. Thanks in advance for your answers
    http://www.filecabi.net/video/by_the_Book.html
    Note on the website the sheriff's email is available for your comments. I in my original question I I left out the e saying not instead of note.
    I didn't misquote anyone anymore then I have an agenda. The sheriff took no action other then to deny allegations. The call to the AG shows his lack of intregity to police his own. The arrests should have been made within minutes after he saw the video.
    Wow!!! those are some pathetic attempts at justifying this sort of assault by cops. By the way if it was not "edited" it would be pornography. You cops forgot this was the victim in a assault case and her crime was her dead sisters ID in memorium, which she gave to a cop in the confusion agter being assaulted. She was cooperative until stripped by male cops. Wanna try again to justify this? Typical cop behavior? YES

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    #96842   2008-03-22 23:19 GMT      
    Great find, You need a better headline to draw people in like,

    "Was she violated, video male cops help strip female"

    I don't have much use for scum of the earth like that, you can only hope their loved ones are returned the favor

    Then maybe a few of them might think?

    More scumbags
    http://www.badcopnews.com/


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    Objective opinion of a male pig helping strip a handcuffed, scared and screaming female on video?

    What F****** more dooes he need

    IT IS SEXUAL ASSUALT.....PERIOD

    Arrest them, "tell it to the judge", have you ever heard that phrase, does it work for a pig ?



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    I see on the pigs webpage there is "more" video to the incident, well how about posting it if you think it will help explaning a male pig helping strip a handcuffed woman as scared and screaming the way she was??

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    WATCH THE VIDEO, WHY NEAR THE END WHEN SHE IS COMPLETELY NAKED ARE THE 2 MALE OFFICERS THE ONES PRIMARILY OVER HER, WHERE DID ALL THE FEMALE OFFICERS GO? DID THEY TAKE HER CLOTHES AND LEAVE?

    That looks more like "intimadating perverts" than it does 2 males trying to help to restrain an already handcuffed and stripped woman

    If the male officers were needed to control her why are they now over her naked laying there, why can't the female officers finish up?

    Your argument about needing more officers even if they are male does not explain them standing over her naked!


    Seems like some big pigs like woman on the floor, heres a 200+lb drunken Chicago pig punching and headkicking a 100lb girl on the floor scared and screaming......scared, screaming, hmmm?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7VInv34ThA

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    #96843   2008-03-22 23:20 GMT      
    The Sheriff has called on the Ohio Attorney General to investigate this matter from the time of this woman's arrest to her release. He has done this to get an objective opinion on his agency and it's actions during this incident. If there was any wrong doing the Attorney General will certainly flag it and is in the position to bring charges against anyone that acted inappropriately.

    Calling for the Sheriff to be executed because he made a comment that his officer did not make a statement to the prisoner or that he did not believe the force used was excessive is ludicrous. The Sheriff never denied the incident in the video never happened. You are misquoting him to fit your own agenda.

    I bet there is a lot more to the story then what the media showed. Time will tell.

    http://www.sheriff.co.stark.oh.us/mr080117.htm

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    No, by calling for the AG to investigate the matter it shows that he is willing to have the matter investigated by the AG's Office (which has the power to come down on him and his staff) and he is apparently confident that this incident is going to come out in his favor. Like I said time will tell. If the deputies did wrong then they will face the music. But that will come after they receive due process guaranteed to them by the Constitution not at the pen/sword tip of the media.

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    #96844   2008-03-22 23:44 GMT      
    I say it is sexual assualt. She was clearly unwilling for any of those actions to be taken, and we all have the right to cose what happens to our body. IF she was a danger to herself, she should have be hospitalized, not put in a jail cell naked.

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    #96845   2008-03-22 23:56 GMT      
    The cops are always going to deny responsibility. Most people are too intimidated to challenge the police for the cops misconduct.

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    #96846   2008-03-23 00:11 GMT      
    i never saw any sexual assault.the lady was acting like a crazy person.all she had to do is remain calm and this would not have happened.when people act as this ladt did they have to ask the questions.it is done for meical screening.crazy acting people require more people to handle them.more often than not they have to get male officers to help.every person that acted as this lady did are stripped of their clothes.this lady was asked if she wanted to harm herself. she would not give them a straight answer.the strip search floowqed.they take their clothes to keep the person from using them to harm themselves or others.all the video showed was a lady acting abnormally/.the handling techniques are upheld by the supreme court.what happened was the lady brought all this own herself.
    ----------retired texas deouty sheriff----------

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    #96847   2008-03-23 00:16 GMT      
    I saw a prisoner who was not cooperating with booking, made comments to cause concern about wanting to commit suicide, and had to be forcibly placed into a holding cell. Clothing is commonly taken to prevent a prisoner (one who has made comments to indicate that they may be suicidal) so that they cannot fashion it into a noose. That's the same reason they are not given a blanket. Prisoners who don't complete booking don't get phone calls.

    The video used in this story is pretty heavily edited and it would probably be very informative to see it in it's entirety. I also find it interesting that her husband is making claims that she was never asked for her clothes. This raises another question, how does he know this? Was he being booked in as well?

    It is always preferably to have same sex officers strip a prisoner should this become necessary, but the truth of the matter is that few jails have enough female personnel working at any one time to accomplish this safely. When you have a prisoner as out of control as this woman, you want four to six jailors in the cell to immoblize her while the clothing is collected. If you use fewer people, it is much more likely that there will be injuries to everyone involved. Persons who have their clothing taken due to suicide concerns are usually given a paper jumpsuit to wear, but I have seen these torn to bits by prisoners who are drunk, high, enraged, and/or just plain nuts.

    If you don't remove the clothing, blankets, etc. and she hangs herself, well then the sheriff's dept. gets sued for not taking due care with the prisoner after she has already indicated that she may be suicidal. Tough situation, eh?

    Taking an out of control person into physical custody is never pretty to watch. We like to believe that it isn't necessary, but often that is just not the case. Perhaps the poster would like to apply for a corrections job so he can show everyone how things ought to be done......

    "But this is typical cop behavior"

    No, you don't seem to have an agenda at all

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    Wow is right! Your responses definately don't address the points raised by others.

    By edited, I mean that only part of the video is shown. I suggest you visit crack open the dictionary and figure out the common definitions of words sometime. As to your title allegation, I probably should have addressed that earlier. This in no way fits the definition of rape. There were no sexual acts occuring nor was their ever any intent for a sexual act to occur. Consent is not an issue since you are not booked into a jail based on your consent. You may want to review my post and try to gain some understanding as to why her clothing was taken.

    In many states it is illegal to carry another person's identification and to hand it to a police officer when they ask for yours is a crime in and of itself. As for her being the victim in an assault case, that was what the original caller said, but neither her husband nor her attorney addressed that at all. Given her behavior, it is not beyond the realm of possibility that this was a drunken fight. Maybe she didn't start it, but her behavior is definately fits with someone who is intoxicated. All in all, it has been referred to the AG's office. If there was wrong-doing, it will come out.

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    #96848   2008-03-23 04:24 GMT      
    There was not any sexual assault at all. Strip searching a prisoner is not sexual assault. They did not touch her sexually in any way whatsoever. They simply strip searched her. Yes the video shows her screaming. If she had complied with orders to strip in the first place they would not have restrained her and forced her to strip. And my guess is that when they initially ordered her to strip there almost definitely would have been only female officers in the cell with her. Once she started disobeying orders, and probably physically resisting as well, all available officers would have come in to assist. As far as "typical cop behavior". I'd say that's a typical phrase of narrow minded people who have no f**king idea whatsoever of what it is like having to deal with irrational and sometimes extremely dangerous people in a correctional environment. You don't know if people are hiding a weapon which they might try to use on themselves or you. Strip searches are done to make sure they don't have any weapons. If she hadn't have started some kind of trouble with the police in the first place, she would not have even been arrested. The lawyers and the news want to just paint a picture of her as a helpless housewife who did nothing wrong, and all of the sheeple of this country just absolutely "know" that anything they see on television or the internet is true. (yeah right). My guess is that there is a lot more to the story. Maybe she was the one who initially called 911, but she obviously did something to the police when they arrived that got her arrested in the first place. Then she obviously refused orders of the officers in the jail to strip. At that point she probably started causing trouble with them too, and they had no choice but to all go into the cell to restrain her. Of course, people will see what they want to see. I wouldn't want to let facts get in the way of any of your opinions. No one knows how stupidly this woman may have acted before they had to call for the camera and restrain her, because there is no video record of that. The cameras are used to prove that no crime was committed by the officers, because they know people will get lawyers and sue whether their rights actually were violated or not. Even though the video clearly shows that nobody touched her in an improper manner at all, people in their narrow little minds still see what they want and they will,"know" they saw a sexual assault.

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    #96849   2008-03-23 07:47 GMT      
    You don't have an agenda!?!?

    All I've seen you do is criticize Police Officers for everything and anything since I've been on this forum.

    This isn't a question, it's a rant and reported as such.

    Have a nice day.
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